Doctors Need Degrees
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Update 2.1: Added compatibility for Job Stopinator and Salary Bonus Scheme, and fixed an error with Pet Jobs
Now updated to version 2.0 for more flexibility and easier updates for custom careers
In the real world, it is not possible to be a doctor, a teacher, a scientist, or a lawyer without a degree. While the lowest levels of the career are something that anyone can do, very quickly you would find that the next job up is only available with the right qualifications.
Other careers, however, don't need to be so strict. Why would criminals or gamers care what sort of education you've had? And why do you need a degree to get any job in Paranormal?
If you've ever been bothered by this in your sims 2 games, this mod is for you!
How does it work?
Sims get Education Points depending on their previous studies:
- Sims that failed high school get 0 points.
- Sims that achieved between D- and C- at high school get 1 point.
- Sims that achieved at least a C at high school but either never went to university or dropped out early (or were created in CAS) get 2 points.
- Sims that attended university and reached at least their Junior year (for the 2 year diploma (2YD) version) or Senior year (for the 3 year degree (3YD) version) before dropping out or being expelled get 3 points.
- Sims who graduated university get 4 points.
- Theoretically, sims who have graduated university and have a specific token in their inventories can have 5 points, but as of right now there aren't any careers with this option.
Each career then has a number of points that are needed for promotion to each level. Some careers can let sims be promoted even though they don't have enough points, but they'll have to get lucky for that to work.
Here are the points needed for each career:
Careers: Medicine, Science, Natural Science, Law, Education
| Level | Points Required |
|---|---|
| 1 - 3 | 2 |
| 4 - 5 | 3 |
| 6 - 10 | 4 |
Careers: Business, Law Enforcement, Military, Show Business, Journalism, Architecture, Intelligence, Oceanography
| Level | Points Required |
|---|---|
| 1 | 0 |
| 2 - 3 | 1 |
| 4 - 5 | 2 |
| 6 - 7 | 3 |
| 8 - 10 | 4 |
Careers: Athletics, Culinary, Politics, Slacker, Artist, Paranormal, Music, Entertainment, Dance
| Level | Points Required |
|---|---|
| 1 - 3 | 0 |
| 4 - 5 | 1 |
| 6 - 7 | 2 |
| 8 - 10 | 3 |
As a default, Criminal, Adventurer and Gamer careers do not care about education, nor do any custom careers unless the career is updated to work with this mod.
What about promotions from chance cards?
When a promotion comes up in a chance card, this mod runs the same checks as it would for any other promotion, and so the promotion may not happen. In that case, you will still get the promotion bonus (as otherwise you wouldn't get anything for a successful chance card pick). Reputation bonus promotions you can sometimes get will also have the same checks.
If you don't want this to happen, get a version with "+morepromotions", which will only block chance card and reputation promotions if there is no chance of that sim passing the education check.
What about getting a job in the first place?
The Artist, Natural Science, Paranormal, and Show Business careers no longer require a degree. Getting a job in Medicine, Science, Natural Science, Education, or Law requires at least 2 education points (a C or above at high school).
What do I need to download?
Get one of:
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD"
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD"
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD+morepromotions"
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD+morepromotions"
The "Custom Career Kit" is for updating custom careers to work with this mod, and should not be added to your downloads folder.
What if I want one of the careers to have different rules?
Open up that career in SimPE and have a look at the BCON file called "Education Requirements by Level" (if the only thing you can change is the labels, you've got the wrong one and need to click on the other one). Lines 1-10 are the points needed for each level, and the chances of passing the points check with insufficient points are in lines 13-16 (as percentages, so out of 100). If the career you want to change is one that doesn't have any educational requirements by default, you'll need to get its package from the "Unused Careers" folder.
How do I update a custom career to use this mod?
Use the "Custom Career Kit" to update your custom career to work with this mod, remembering to update the "Education Requirements by Level" file to your preferred numbers. The code will only be read by the game if the rest of this mod is installed, so this will not break a custom career for someone who doesn't have Doctors Need Degrees installed.
Code Modified:
| Type | Group | Instance | Name |
|---|---|---|---|
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2005 | Function - Qualify for Level? |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2008 | Sub - Chance Card - Results |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2017 | Sub - Chance Card - Alter Budget |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2097 | CT - Hobby Card - Results |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2117 | Sub - Hobby Card - Alter Budget |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 206C | Unlock Check |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 209F | Sub - Secret Networking Promotion/Demotion |
| STR# | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 012D | Dialog prim string set |
| STR# | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 012F | Call Named Tree prim string set |
| BHAV | 0x7F441294 | 204C | Career - Unlock Check |
| BHAV | 0x7FC2ED7B | 1007 | Filter - Unlock |
| BCON | some careers | 1056 | Tuning - Flags |
New Code:
| Type | Group | Instance | Name |
|---|---|---|---|
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 20B9 | Function - Get My Education Score in Temp2 |
| BHAV | 0x7FC2ED7B | 100A | Function - Get Education Score in Temp2 |
| BHAV | each career | 1008 | CT - Qualify for Level - Education Fail? |
| BHAV | each career | 1009 | CT - Qualify for Level - Education Block? |
| BCON | each career | 105F | Education Requirements by Level |
Conflicts:
| Name | Conflicts with | What to do |
|---|---|---|
| Cyjon's Edukashun iz Gud | most of this | Remove - this is an expanded version |
| Pescado's harderjobs | Function - Qualify for Level | Get the lower starting levels if my mod loads last |
| Monique's Work & Bring Home Friend Dialog | Dialog prim string set | Works provided my mod loads last |
| Cyjon's Reputation Job Sanity | Dialog prim string set | Probably works provided my mod loads last |
| Cyjon's Job Stopinator (Chance option) | Sub - Chance Card - Results and CT - Hobby Card - Results | Works provided my mod loads last |
| Sims Salary Bonus Scheme by Pick'N'Mix Mods | Function - Qualify for Level and Call Named Tree prim string set | Works provided my mod loads last and you don't use the Pause Promotions feature of that mod |
| LazyDuchess' Job Rejections mod | Dialog prim string set | Probably works provided my mod loads last |
Other conflicts are probably not compatible.
Updates:
Version 1.1: Custom careers now default to the Careers that a diploma is useful category, so redownload if you have a custom career. Instructions for adding custom careers to other categories are also available here
Version 1.2: Fixed an issue with the wrong messages appearing when a sim owns their own car. Fixed an issue with the wrong amounts of money given/removed for chance cards at high levels (I hope).
Version 1.3: Fixed an issue with wrong bonuses at higher job levels.
Version 1.4: Fixed an issue with chance card bonuses (thanks LimeyYoshi).
Version 2.0: Redesigned the code for more options for custom careers, or for editing individual careers to suit preferences.
Version 2.1: Updated to provide compatibility with Job Stopinator and Sims Salary Bonus Mod.
Thanks:
Cyjon, whose Edukashun iz Gud was the base for this mod, and whose code I have shamelessly used thanks to their generous 'don't reinvent the wheel' policy.
All the makers of SimPE, without which this mod would never have made any progress.
Hexagonal-bipyramid, whose handy "Easy Inventory Check" mod was both very useful and inspired my own versions.
And jonasn, who keeps answering all my questions.
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| PetJobs.7z | 7z | |
| PetJobs.package | package | 384 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| Unused Careers.7z | 7z | |
| Adventurer.package | package | 1650 |
| Criminal.package | package | 1650 |
| Gamer.package | package | 1650 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD-v2-1.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD-v2-1.package | package | 167713 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD-v2-1.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD-v2-1.package | package | 167759 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD+morepromotions-v2-1.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD+morepromotions-v2-1.package | package | 167575 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD+morepromotions-v2-1.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD+morepromotions-v2-1.package | package | 167621 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey_easyTokenCheck.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey_easyTokenCheck.package | package | 288 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey_easyMemoryCheck.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey_easyMemoryCheck.package | package | 288 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees_Careers.7z | 7z | |
| Architecture.package | package | 1650 |
| Artist.package | package | 1746 |
| Athletics.package | package | 1650 |
| Business.package | package | 1650 |
| Culinary.package | package | 1650 |
| Dance.package | package | 1650 |
| Education.package | package | 1746 |
| Entertainment.package | package | 1650 |
| Intelligence.package | package | 1650 |
| Journalism.package | package | 1650 |
| Law.package | package | 1746 |
| LawEnforcement.package | package | 1650 |
| Medicine.package | package | 1746 |
| Military.package | package | 1650 |
| Music.package | package | 1650 |
| NaturalScience.package | package | 1746 |
| Oceanography.package | package | 1650 |
| Paranormal.package | package | 1746 |
| PetJobs.package | package | 384 |
| Politics.package | package | 1650 |
| Science.package | package | 1746 |
| ShowBusiness.package | package | 1746 |
| Slacker.package | package | 1650 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| Custom Careers Kit.7z | 7z | |
| 42434F4E-00000000-FFFFFFFF-0000105F.simpe | simpe | 100 |
| 42434F4E-00000000-FFFFFFFF-0000105F.simpe.xml | xml | 343 |
| 42484156-00000000-FFFFFFFF-00001008.simpe | simpe | 330 |
| 42484156-00000000-FFFFFFFF-00001008.simpe.xml | xml | 343 |
| 42484156-00000000-FFFFFFFF-00001009.simpe | simpe | 307 |
| 42484156-00000000-FFFFFFFF-00001009.simpe.xml | xml | 343 |
| 5452434E-00000000-FFFFFFFF-0000105F.simpe | simpe | 721 |
| 5452434E-00000000-FFFFFFFF-0000105F.simpe.xml | xml | 343 |
| Instructions.txt | txt | 469 |
The following custom content is required for this download to function properly! Please make sure you download it before downloading the files!
- Smarter EP Check by Cyjon
- Easy Inventory Check by hexagonal-bipyramid
Note from the Creator:
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD" (if you want your part degrees to resemble three year degrees)
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD+morepromotions" (if you want both three year degrees and easier promotions from chance cards)
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD" (if you want your part degrees to resemble two year diplomas)
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD+morepromotions" (if you want both two year diplomas and easier promotions from chance cards)
Then get all three of:
- "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees_Careers"
- "KittyCarey_easyTokenCheck" (unless you already have it)
- "KittyCarey_easyMemoryCheck" (unless you already have it)
"Custom Career Kit" is for updating custom careers for this mod, and should not be installed in your downloads folder (follow the instructions in "Instructions.txt")
"Unused Careers" is for if you want to edit one of the careers that doesn't have any educational requirements by default - edit the package(s) as required and add them to your careers folder in your downloads.
"PetJobs" is a new addition to the Careers folder as of 10-June-2026, and is available separately if you've already downloaded the rest of the folder.
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Install Instructions
1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.
2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.
3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
- Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
- Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
- Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
- Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
- Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
- For a full, complete guide to downloading complete with pictures and more information, see: Game Help: Downloading for Fracking Idiots.
- Custom content not showing up in the game? See: Game Help: Getting Custom Content to Show Up.
- If you don't have a Downloads folder, just make one. See instructions at: Game Help: No Downloads Folder.
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Uploaded: 10th Jun 2021 at 5:45 PM
Updated: 10th Jun 2026 at 7:40 AM
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