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#1 Old Yesterday at 4:51 PM Last edited by malthaussen : Yesterday at 5:39 PM.
Default I've encountered the most fascinating bug in Bodyshop
This one really has me scratching my head. I've done a few recolors and suchlike with the Legacy-ready version of Bodyshop, which I downloaded and installed recently. Some female outfits, some male outfits, some male tops... and then I tried to do a female top. And the most extraordinary thing is happening.

The item looks fine in Bodyshop. You can put it on a cloned Sim, and still fine. Export it to the game, and have a young lady try to buy it... and this happens:

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This happens only with female tops (teens and YA so far, but I expect it will happen with other ages). only tops, and only female.

I tried a number of times to get it to work. Finally, as a test, I simply cloned a top, and exported it without any changes. Same result.
If the item is purchased and worn, it basically blacks out the whole Sim. Even though it's supposed to be a top, it also affects the bottom.

It doesn't happen with males. I did the same thing -- cloned a male top and exported it, and it can be worn without a problem. Visual proof:

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As one can see from the photos, the item looks just fine in the snapshot in Buy Mode, but if you click it, you get the weirdness.
I'll add that tops already in my Downloads can be purchased and worn without a problem, it is only every single new female top exported to the game that is having the problem. And tops I have downloaded from the 'Net are not having the problem, just my projects. Which of course suggests some flaw in my install of Bodyshop, but this is a weird bug nonetheless.

This boggles my mind. I can take pieces of the very same tops and paste them into full outfits, and they work fine (thank goodness; if I couldn't make any female clothes in BS I'd cry). But every time I try to do a female top, the same thing happens, regardless of age or what I try to do with it.

Figure that one out. I'll wait.

Update: Uninstalled and re-installed Bodyshop, and the problem persists. Like I said, fascinating.

-- Mal
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Instructor
#2 Old Yesterday at 4:55 PM
This happens to me too, there is a fix I think, here: Fix!
It's for CAS, but since it also happens when buying clothes like in your case, maybe it would fix this too.

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#3 Old Yesterday at 4:59 PM
Quote: Originally posted by FuryCat
This happens to me too, there is a fix I think, here: Fix!
It's for CAS, but I think since your issue appears with these items, maybe it would fix this too.


No, it's not the same thing at all. In any event I have the CAS fix. But this is some kind of corruption that is happening only to female top projects done in Bodyshop, very strange.

-- Mal

"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Instructor
#4 Old Yesterday at 5:03 PM
Quote: Originally posted by malthaussen
No, it's not the same thing at all. In any event I have the CAS fix. But this is some kind of corruption that is happening only to female top projects done in Bodyshop, very strange.

-- Mal

Hmm, you're right. It looks like that in my game but with other items as well, like hairs and accessories, not only female tops. It could be Legacy weirdness maybe. I'm also not finding anyone else having this problem with some searches I did, this is really strange.

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#5 Old Yesterday at 5:26 PM Last edited by simmer22 : Yesterday at 5:37 PM.
The items that most often cause those issues are meshes with borked normals, or recolors with iffy bump maps (Wrong size bumpmap, wrong format in the file, especially if the file was edited after Bodyshop).

Wrong size bumpmap/texture is a known bug if Bodyshop/GraphicRules isn't set up properly - Bodyshop for some reason reduces the size of textures (1024x1024 to 512x512, or smaller if you keep importing the same project). If the bump map and texture size don't match, this issue can happen. Worth checking out if you still have the Projects folder for those items. This bug for a top or bottom affects both parts even if just one item has the bug, because the textures overlay.

In some cases there could be an iffy item that takes on the role of a default replacement, and causes something buggy to happen to multiple outfits. Usually the hair/scalp part of a hair, or the skin part of clothes. A bit less likely here, though.

Does it happen to EAxis items too, or just CC, or just CC made with the Legacy version?

If it's just CC made with the Legacy version, can you upload one of the items? Could be something else isn't set up right.
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#6 Old Yesterday at 5:52 PM
Nope, I've tried about every variation one could think of: cloned original base game content, still bugged. Cloned EP content, still bugged. Cloned CC created before I had Legacy (which works just fine in the game), still bugged. Cloned CC created by others after I got Legacy (which also works fine in the game), still bugged. I just cloned the sweatshirt that came with the base game, imported it without change, and it's still bugged. At the same time, I cloned the fur coats that were added in some EP/SP or other, binned them as outerwear, and they act perfectly normally. It's only Female Tops, and it is bugged without exception. And I've done content with and without bump maps (that was my first thought, that the bump maps were borked), but no joy. It is really the most fascinating thing, especially since obviously other CC creators aren't having this problem, because their tops all work in my game! As an aside, I have no default replacements.

I'll be glad to send you a package with one of the broken creations. If it works in somebody else's game, I'm going to be even more confused.

-- Mal

"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Mad Poster
#7 Old Yesterday at 5:56 PM
Did you try with no CC at all? Maybe something is interfering.
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#8 Old Yesterday at 6:20 PM
Does it only happen with items you've cloned/edited/made in Bodyshop?

Or does it also happen with stuff you've downloaded (but not edited/cloned in any way by you, just put directly in your Downloads folder)?

The issue I mentioned above can also happen if one item has a bump map but the other one doesn't (but has smaller textures because of the bug).

If it only happens to items you've edited/cloned, something is happening between Bodyshop and the finished imported package file. Most likely a reduced texture size.

Looking at the file would help, yes.
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#9 Old Yesterday at 8:05 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
Does it only happen with items you've cloned/edited/made in Bodyshop?

Or does it also happen with stuff you've downloaded (but not edited/cloned in any way by you, just put directly in your Downloads folder)?

The issue I mentioned above can also happen if one item has a bump map but the other one doesn't (but has smaller textures because of the bug).

If it only happens to items you've edited/cloned, something is happening between Bodyshop and the finished imported package file. Most likely a reduced texture size.

Looking at the file would help, yes.


As I indicated, things I have downloaded both before and since installing Legacy work fine. It's only my work in Bodyshop, and only Female Tops.
The orange sweatshirt I cloned, which is original game content, has all three files, Body, Alpha, and Bumpmap, and they're all the same size, 512k. To check this, I imported the new package to see if the files were the same (ie, started a new project with the clone I just made), and the files are still 512k. If there's some kind of resizing going on between BS and the game, it's not evident.

Where should I send the files?

-- Mal

"Of two choices, I always take the third."
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#10 Old Yesterday at 8:22 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Charity
Did you try with no CC at all? Maybe something is interfering.


Tried as you suggested. Removed all CC (Downloads, Saved Sims, and Projects) and ran the game. Took a random Sim to the store, had her try to buy the freshly-created garment. Still no joy. Nice thought, though, although I would have been tearing my hair out trying to figure out what was blocking it if it had been the case.

-- Mal

"Of two choices, I always take the third."
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