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#1 Old 22nd Dec 2024 at 3:53 PM Last edited by ws2003 : 16th Jan 2025 at 12:01 PM. Reason: edited the tag because i didn't know the difference between common threads and general threads
Default Has anybody ever grilled Knut Futa with the OMGWTFBBQ
So we probably all know what is OMGWTFBBQ, for those who don't, it adds a new grill to the game, and this grill's special function is that you can kill babies by grilling them and optionally eating them.
And we also probably know who is Knut Futa. If you don't, it's a glitchy corrupted and incomplete sim whose vital aspects are missing, including his age data. So the missing age data causes him to act like a baby. He also doesn't have personality (it's randomly generated), an aspiration, skills, interests, etc, but those are not important in regard of this post.

So since Knut acts like a baby, has anybody tried to grill him in the OMGWTFBBQ Grill, or does it cause errors? ALSO, this doesn't just apply to Knut Futa, this applies to any other SimPE-tampered Sim whose age was moved to baby. (Yes its possible you can change what age will the game treat a Sim)

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#2 Old 22nd Dec 2024 at 3:57 PM
It won't work. Attempting to interact with an adult-baby just throws animation errors because the adult and baby models are too different.

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#3 Old 22nd Dec 2024 at 4:18 PM
It definitely made my morning to read the title of this thread.
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#4 Old 22nd Dec 2024 at 7:12 PM
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#5 Old 22nd Dec 2024 at 7:13 PM
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#6 Old 22nd Dec 2024 at 7:20 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample


LEAVE KNUT ALONE!

Nah i will grill him in the OMGWTFBBQ

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#7 Old 22nd Dec 2024 at 7:51 PM
Quote: Originally posted by ws2003
Nah i will grill him in the OMGWTFBBQ


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#8 Old 25th Dec 2024 at 8:23 PM
If anyone does do it, please film it but do not forget to include some emo rock from 00s as the soundtrack! And record at low quality. And upload it to Youtube.

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#9 Old 26th Dec 2024 at 6:08 AM
There were some posts on reddit from someone who managed to grow up Knut Futa and have him as a toddler and child with an adult body, but I don't know how they did that.
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#10 Old 26th Dec 2024 at 6:14 AM Last edited by simmer22 : 26th Dec 2024 at 6:32 AM.
^ Making a sim act older or younger than they look like is fairly easy (toddler in adult body, or similar - any combo except acting as baby is possible (or rather it's not practical since they're not interactable and cause errors). Babies acting older is possible, though - I had a toddler-baby crawling around for a while - pic). Can be done with SimPE, and combos involving babies acting older need SimPE, but for the rest it's possible to do it purely via an ingame method (ingame it's a bit tedious, and you have to do it in the correct order to get the wanted result - I'd think most often it happens accidentally and with unwanted results, for instance the "untouchable adult-baby" issue Knut is famous for).

I'd think it's possible to either extract Knut's looks or somehow fix him in SimPE so he has basic info, and then you'd be able to do the same with him.
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#11 Old 26th Dec 2024 at 6:34 AM
There was a video of an adult growing up baby!Knut Futa into toddler!Knut Futa and then interacting with him as a toddler, all while having an adult body. So they're obviously not always unable to be interacted with.
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#12 Old 26th Dec 2024 at 7:04 AM
I don't know about Knut (who obviously have some issues), but if you grow up a sim who has the wrong age/body, they'll usually be reset to the (new) proper age/body when growing up (unless I remember completely wrong - it's been a while since I messed around with this). I think it follows the actual age, not the visual.

Depending on how the video was filmed, it's possible the video wasn't entirely truthful. Could've been an extracted + SimPE edited version they were playing with.
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#13 Old 26th Dec 2024 at 8:15 AM
Knut is just strange - in Strangetown.
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#14 Old 26th Dec 2024 at 11:40 AM
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#15 Old 26th Dec 2024 at 3:44 PM
They don't actually show him growing from a baby to a toddler, so they could just have teleported in the original Knut, then used a lookalike for the rest.
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#16 Old 26th Dec 2024 at 4:46 PM Last edited by ws2003 : 23rd Feb 2025 at 10:37 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by kestrellyn
There were some posts on reddit from someone who managed to grow up Knut Futa and have him as a toddler and child with an adult body, but I don't know how they did that.

Go to SimPE, load whatever neighborhood, and then go the sim list (or sim descriptions), click on whatever sim (DON'T TRY IT ON THE UNIVERSAL SIMS AS THAT MAY CAUSE CORRUPTION), Then change their age to "toddler" or "child". This doesn't update their model, so you will be met with horrifying results.
You can also do stuff like changing their species, and TRUST ME, YOU'LL HAVE A BALL.

If you want to change a Sim's age but you don't want them to keep their current body, use the Sim Modder in-game or the Inseminator which can change a Sim's age and also their model. (eg: Meet Bob, Bob is an adult Sim with an adult appearance, but i want to make him a Toddler. If i use Insimenator or Sim modder to change his age, not only will he act like a toddler, but he will have the body of a toddler.)
This doesn't work if you want to make a Sim a pet.

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#17 Old 27th Dec 2024 at 12:11 AM
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
They don't actually show him growing from a baby to a toddler, so they could just have teleported in the original Knut, then used a lookalike for the rest.

The person I saw on reddit who was posting Knut Futa videos did age the sim to toddler in SimPE. Don't know if that's the same one kestrellyn saw.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sims2/comm...ns_how_to_walk/

Also, you can have your own Knut Futa rug!!!!!oneoneone
https://knut-rocketman.tumblr.com/p...t-rug-i-couldnt
Mad Poster
#18 Old 27th Dec 2024 at 5:05 AM
Yeah, I'm definitely remembering a different video, it was filmed from inside a house.
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#19 Old 27th Dec 2024 at 10:21 AM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample
Also, you can have your own Knut Futa rug!!!!!oneoneone
https://knut-rocketman.tumblr.com/p...t-rug-i-couldnt


I am so relieved that is a basic rug and not Knut Futa contorted into toddler pose and used as a rug.
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#20 Old 29th Dec 2024 at 2:33 AM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample


I found a comment in that video talking about the specters having a BBQ party so i guess that's the closest thing to Knut being OMGWTFBBQ'ed

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#21 Old 29th Dec 2024 at 8:37 PM
In TS2 (I think this extends to other 3D games as well) meshes have "skeletons" and "bones" which aren't the same thing as skeletons IRL or the skeleton mesh which shows when they get shocked, they are just points for animations to snap to.

Toddlers to elders all have the same skeleton and bone arrangement, just different sizes. That's why you can get adults to do toddler animations and vice versa (like toddlers will do the "shy dance" sometimes, or float when being lectured). But because babies don't have the same bones the game just throws an error when it tries to run a baby animation on an adult sim's body.

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#22 Old 29th Dec 2024 at 8:55 PM Last edited by simmer22 : 29th Dec 2024 at 9:10 PM.
Quote: Originally posted by simsfreq
... babies don't have the same bones the game just throws an error when it tries to run a baby animation on an adult sim's body.


Babies lack a few bones here and there, and have somewhat different placement of body parts, but largely it's the same bone structure and bone names. You can make an infant do toddler (and older) animations, but their faces will not animate, and their hands/thumb will be a bit crooked.

It's possible the issue goes the other way, though - the missing bones could be causing trouble for older sims (although they appear to show up fine even without the missing bones (regardless of errors).

I don't think it's the skeleton, but rather the rig/IK targets (or something similar, anyway) that causes the issues with the "older babies". I think the main issue probably has to do with the interactions, and/or the rig (think of the rig as the "muscles" on top of the skeleton, with extra controls). Babies likely have some rig elements that don't play nicely if the game tries to use them for older sims. Or maybe the interactions are the ones causing errors (checking if the sim is a baby and then hitting an error, perhaps)

If you try extracting animations that are meant for two or more sims (especially if they involve babies, but not exclusively), and those involve touching/holding/sims being linked (IK targets or similar), those also tend to cause errors at worst, or weird animations at best.

I tried extracting some of the birth animations a while back. Some just errored and/or didn't play properly. Some worked until the interaction would've been an IK target between sim/baby (arms flinging everywhere). The ones that worked were largely the ones without interaction between baby/parent (flying alien baby worked fine).
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#23 Old 5th Jan 2025 at 6:06 AM
What exactly happened to the OMGWTFBBQ mod? Doesn't seem like it's on MTS anymore... :-/
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#24 Old 5th Jan 2025 at 8:20 AM
https://www.amazon.com/omgwtfbbq-Ad...B01IWNHPAO?th=1

The mod was taken down a long time back. If it's wanted it can still be obtained as it's in Pes' downloads over in MATY
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#25 Old 5th Jan 2025 at 8:24 AM
Quote: Originally posted by M.M.A.A.
What exactly happened to the OMGWTFBBQ mod? Doesn't seem like it's on MTS anymore... :-/

Wasn't there a lot of whinge and cringe over that mod?

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