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#1 Old 18th Feb 2025 at 8:10 AM

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Sims 2, University, Nightlife, Open for Business, Pets, Seasons, Bon Voyage, Free Time, Apartment Life
Default alien baby was born deformed (even more)
My poor sim that was abducted has had this baby, I downloaded the sim recently, I don't know if it's because it has a skin or something that makes it look so weird or something else that you guys can tell me... the SIM is this one: https://modthesims.info/d/688577/li...by-emirain.html
I hope you can help me
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#2 Old 18th Feb 2025 at 10:15 AM
Do you have a mod to allow facial features on babies? Unmodded, all babies that don't have the EA alien face template have identical faces until you age them up to toddler. I know there is a mod that changes that, so my guess would be that that mod is having some strange interaction with whatever face template your sim (or your alien) uses.
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#3 Old 18th Feb 2025 at 11:35 AM
It's not really "a" mod as in one spesific mod, but edited face templates. You can find those edited for default hoods, default maxis templates, non-default templates, etc.

It's likely something went wrong between the face template the sim uses, and the template the baby uses.

Try deleting the cache files. Then try taking the baby to a mirror via a mod* (make the baby selectable, select "change appearance". Do some change like selecting eyebrows - thumbnails are usually invisible, and you won't see the change until you click yes). If this doesn't fix the baby, there's a problem in one of the templates. Might fix itself if the baby grows to toddler, though.

*such as Insimenator, SimBlender, SimManipulator
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#4 Old 19th Feb 2025 at 2:55 AM
it didn't work, I don't know why, plus it cost me a lot to change its appearance (after all nothing was changed), it's a small baby, and I can't take it to the mirror, I could have done it with the big inseminator machine, but as you can see, nothing, I don't have any face templates (that I know of), it's the first time it's happened to me, I do have some personalized pollinator aliens, but they've never given me problems, do you think if it grows it will look good? Also, I couldn't save the game, since then I made it non-selectable and it was no longer part of the family. (I don't know how to make it selectable and not leave the family when reverting it)
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#5 Old 19th Feb 2025 at 4:48 AM
Did you try changing something in the dialog and saving? I'm not sure based on what you wrote.
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#6 Old 19th Feb 2025 at 4:54 AM
Quote: Originally posted by kestrellyn
Did you try changing something in the dialog and saving? I'm not sure based on what you wrote.
Yes, I changed the chin and hit save, but nothing happened. Sorry for my English, I'm using a translator.
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#7 Old 19th Feb 2025 at 5:19 AM
Then the face template is probably an issue.

Could be an idea to test if this particular sim/sim template and another sim (not alien) also get babies with broken faces (you don't need to save the game, just run a pregnancy sped up with a mod and quit without saving after the baby is born). If so, it's most likely an issue with this sim's template.

If it doesn't happen again with that sim, it could be an issue with the alien replacement you have.
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#8 Old 19th Feb 2025 at 4:23 PM
Those are some scary aliens. XD Does the glitch remain if you age the baby up to toddler?
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#9 Old 21st Feb 2025 at 12:36 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Charity
Those are some scary aliens. XD Does the glitch remain if you age the baby up to toddler?


Hi simmers, thanks for answering so quickly, the girl has grown (I would call her the alien bug has grown) and is normal, she is not damaged, now she is a child, but these PT, have always been good for me (I leave you the link here PT ), their skins are fantastic and have a lot of variety, I will try to do what you said simmer22, I am going to get that sim pregnant (poor thing ...), I do not know if it has to be with the same alien (??), or is it worth it with another sim (one that lived in the same house), I can do that, with the inseminator, I will try it tonight and I will tell you. Thanks, charity, seriously they are scary, but the green ones that come with the game are worse, why do the aliens have to be so ugly? .. haha ​​poor things ... these that I have, are not so horrifying
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#10 Old 21st Feb 2025 at 1:38 AM
If you've never had the issue with the PTs, try to get the sim pregnant with another non-alien sim. If this too causes a broken infant face, the sim's baby face template is broken.

Technically, all the default templates are kinda "broken" for infants, in that the infant faces show the same face for all non-alien babies. For templates without edited infant faces, normally those would just end up as the default baby face. The only time baby faces blend (and end up looking different) in an unmodded game is with the alien baby face, since the PT has a different attached baby face template.
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#11 Old 22nd Feb 2025 at 1:52 AM Last edited by Missdabone : 22nd Feb 2025 at 3:14 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
If you've never had the issue with the PTs, try to get the sim pregnant with another non-alien sim. If this too causes a broken infant face, the sim's baby face template is broken.

Technically, all the default templates are kinda "broken" for infants, in that the infant faces show the same face for all non-alien babies. For templates without edited infant faces, normally those would just end up as the default baby face. The only time baby faces blend (and end up looking different) in an unmodded game is with the alien baby face, since the PT has a different attached baby face template.

Hello, that sim has a non-default template (I don't know what it is), I put it in downloads, and it had a wrong baby too, but I chose an alien, today I will try to have a baby with a normal sim, since another one from the same family (they are not related, but they have the same last name and live in the same home - house ), had a baby and it was normal, maybe this sim has the wrong "template", I thought that these files were for people who wanted to edit the sim at an artistic level, that's why I never included templates in my game, tell me if the template should go in the downloads folder, and tonight I will try to have that sim have a child with another sim, (I will have to use the inseminator, it's a male sim). If the child still has a wrong child... if it only happens in the initial baby phase... It wouldn't be so bad either, I like that sim that that user created (link here )


I think it's the template for that sim, he had a child with another normal sim and it came out weird, the question is: could the creator of this sim fix that? Second question: does it only affect a small baby sim or can it cause more problems than this for all generations? Thanks
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#12 Old 22nd Feb 2025 at 4:49 AM
Try notifying the creator. Either send them a PM, or let them know in the comments of the original download topic.

It's likely just an issue with the baby face, but I'm fairly sure it's going to be an issue with all the baby faces linked to that parent sim, so all the future babies of the parent sim and their future kids again will have some sort of issue with the baby faces.
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#13 Old 22nd Feb 2025 at 6:34 AM
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
Try notifying the creator. Either send them to PM, or let them know in the comments of the original download topic.

It's likely just an issue with the baby face, but I'm fairly sure it's going to be an issue with all the baby faces linked to that parent sim, so all the future babies of the parent sim and their future kids again will have some sort of issue with the baby faces.

Thanks, I already sent a private message to the creator I hope I can fix it, one last question, can this cause problems with my game? And where are the templates installed?
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#14 Old 22nd Feb 2025 at 7:03 PM Last edited by simmer22 : 22nd Feb 2025 at 7:20 PM.
Shouldn't cause trouble with your game other than buggy babies. It's just a buggy face, so only sims made with that template will be affected (that template sim, edited sims using the template or having been blended with the template in CAS/Bodyshop, and kids/descendants of these sims). It can spread if the sim has kids and those kids have kids, and so on - but it won't spread to unrelated sims, or cause any big fireballs of doom.

Sim templates are usually installed in the Downloads folder, so I assume that's where you've put the sim (and the separate template, if there is one?). Sim template files usually look something like this ("f4237cda_5483fcb2.package") and the sims show up in the sim bin with full sims in CAS and Bodyshop. A standalone face template likely has a more readable name (these would show up in the face morphing selection in CAS and Bodyshop). I'd think the sim and template have the same issue.

I assume it's possible to fix broken faces in SimPE for already made sims, but haven't tried doing it.

Once a sim has been made with a template and is in the game, they kind of get a copy of the template in their sim file, and will keep this regardless of whether you remove the downloaded files or not. Both the downloaded sim and the template file are just templates, so the issue won't be fixed by removing the files. You can remove the sim and template so you make sure you don't make other sims with the bug, though. You may also want to keep the sim from having more kids, if the baby face issue is a problem and you don't want it to spread.
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#15 Old 23rd Feb 2025 at 1:10 PM
Can you fix a broken template after it's already been applied to a sim?
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#16 Old 24th Feb 2025 at 12:43 AM
Dear Charity,
So happy for you that so many well-educated Simmers are giving you answers! I, however (after giving this subject due investigative diligence) have come to the only cogent answer;
the baby's alien parent is a Cone Head.
PS
Please forgive any annoyance I may have caused in my effort to be..um..funny

Stand up, speak out. Just not to me..
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#17 Old 24th Feb 2025 at 3:08 AM Last edited by simmer22 : 24th Feb 2025 at 3:23 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by Charity
Can you fix a broken template after it's already been applied to a sim?


No, the sim gets a copy of the template in their file, not the template itself, so that sim and their descendants will be stuck with the broken version even if the template gets fixed (descendants will get a blended broken template).

You can fix it for future sims in the template, though.

You can also swap out older sims' faces using the plastic surgery item + SimPE, so if you have a fixed template that's likely the way to go from there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2yDW8sgpl8 - fix the sim ingame (no idea if it would work for infants - and you'd need a fixed template with a working infant face)
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#18 Old 24th Feb 2025 at 8:17 AM
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
No, the sim gets a copy of the template in their file, not the template itself, so that sim and their descendants will be stuck with the broken version even if the template gets fixed (descendants will get a blended broken template).

You can fix it for future sims in the template, though.

You can also swap out older sims' faces using the plastic surgery item + SimPE, so if you have a fixed template that's likely the way to go from there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2yDW8sgpl8 - fix the sim ingame (no idea if it would work for infants - and you'd need a fixed template with a working infant face)

I didn't know what templates were until recently... I had read about them, but as I said, I thought it was to modify things on a technical level, I don't know how to do all that... I hope the creator fixes the sim, if he fixes it I could use this repaired sim, the one that is wrong, for example. That he doesn't have more offspring (he wasn't going to have them anyway, unless he is abducted by aliens again), I didn't understand what the other user said, what is a cone head?... thanks for all your efforts
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#19 Old 24th Feb 2025 at 5:47 PM
The cone head post was just a joke, don't worry Coneheads were an old sci-fi character of a kind of alien which had extra-large brains.

Check out my thoughts on Psymchology (Sim Psychology) - latest post is on the main six aspirations.
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#20 Old 25th Feb 2025 at 1:35 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsfreq
The cone head post was just a joke, don't worry Coneheads were an old sci-fi character of a kind of alien which had extra-large brains.


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#21 Old 27th Feb 2025 at 8:07 AM
Ahh ok, ok, I didn't think it was a joke (and you can laugh at the poor hole-headed baby's appearance...), but in the end, the problem is with the "template", the creator has answered me very kindly and tells me that she/he will fix it when he can, thank you all very much.
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