Inhabitants work thread
 

In this thread, we will organize the create-a-sim program and discuss about our respective work.

Rules:
The CC is going to be restricted to a very small list that I'll write here. Free stuff only!
Clothes, hair, brows, patterns and the like are going to be EA's.

CC list/Credits:
- skin : HP body textures and shine overlays + Aikea Guinea's faces
- eyes: Escand's eyes (Oh my eyes)
- facials: Natural Lip colour by Arisuka@MTS/Kittyklan default facial hair

Sims information
Sims: 54
Families: 20
Elder: 7
Adults/YA: 29
Teen: 7
Children: 6
Toddler: 5
Females:28
Males: 26

Careers:
- Business: 3 (Venceslao Scomparin - Nadia - Cecilia)
- Criminal: 2 ( Delfina Antonacci [boss] - Emiliana Antonacci)
- Culinary: 2 (Raul Costa lvl ? - Herberto Castillo lvl ?)
- Journalism: 4 (Saverio & Valeria Paolini[boss] -Maritza - Sofia)
- Law enforcement: 1 (Dante Mancini lvl ?)
- Medical: 0
- Military: 0
- Music: 0
- Political: 1 (Yasmin)
- Professional sports: 1 (Diego)
- Science: 0
- Part-times: 4 (Zita Scomparin - Leona/spa - Felipe - Carlos/supermarket)

List of the sims :
Inhabitants

* Antonio Ortega - SimGirlTasia232
Antonio is a simple guy who leads a simple life and it doesn't take much to make him happy. On a regular day you may find him spending time with other members of his book club and when things get rough, he heads for the beach to gather his thoughts. He can be quite sensitive at times and his neighbors have learned to watch what they say as he tends to get emotional when reliving memories of his years as an army vet.
Location: fishing shack
Job: Retired from the army
Traits:Angler, Bookworm, Loves The Outdoors, Never Nude, Over-Emotional
LTW Perfect Aquarium
Likes Lobster, Teal, Classical

* Maritza Ortega household
-Maritza
Location: Unknown
Job:
Traits:
LTW
Favorites
-Damian
Age: Toddler
Traits:
Favorites
-Elvira
Age: Toddler
Traits:
Favorites

* Roomies household 1 - SimGirlTasia232
Location: Talula's house
-Anita Torres
Having grown up without a father, Anita finds herself dealing with serious abandonment issues. It's hard for her to trust people and although she's had a few romantic entanglements in the past, none had been able to last because of her fear that men may leave her the way her dad had left her mom. She now focuses on her career as a lawyer and ends up with a different guy every night.
Job: Business carrier
Traits:Absent Minded, Loner, Lucky, Artistic, Commitment Issues
LTW Heartbreaker
Likes Grilled Cheese, Yellow, Pop
- Talula Alvaro
Talula thinks that her family may be cursed. She has lost almost all of them to the sea and her neighbors believe that it may have something to do with the forlorn lovers that have died there many years ago. Although it has yet to be proven, the diary of a young woman named Wrenna makes her wonder. Talula hopes to become a surgeon one day and currently works as a waitress at the Swordfish Bar & Grill to pay for med school. She isn't too happy with the fact that it's very close to the sea, but her roommate Anita tells her that what does not kill her can only make her stronger.
Job: The Swordfish Bar & Grill
Traits:Good Sense Of Humor, Bookworm, Perfectionist, Excitable, Hydrophobic
LTW World Renowned Surgeon
Likes Cheesesteak, Electronica, Pink

* Mancini household - SimGirlTasia232
- Nadia Mancini
Nadia is the epitome of perfection. She never settles for "good" when she can have the best and when it comes to men, she expects no less. This is why she married Dante Mancini, the man of her dreams. He is everything she could ever hope for and when he proposed to her over a candlelit dinner amidst Spanish violinists, she just knew that he was the one. The diamond ring certainly made saying "I do" a lot easier.
Job: Journalism carrier
Traits: Family-Orientated, Snob, Bookworm, Hopeless Romantic, Excitable
LTW Living In The Lap Of Luxury
Likes Lobster, Purple, Classical
- Dante Mancini
A true gentleman, Dante embodies the characteristics of a knight in shining armor. He has always been inclined to help those in need which is why he has decided to pursue a career in law enforcement. He spends his free time working out, fighting for animal rights and spending time with his wife who means the world to him.
Job: Law enforcement carrier
Traits: Brave, Athletic, Vegetarian, Great Kisser, Family Orientated
LTW International Super Spy
Likes French Toast, Classical,Red

* Costa household - SimGirlTasia232
- Raul Costa
Raul is the proud owner of the Swordfish Bar & Grill, a local hangout frequented by the working class citizens of the town. He's put on some weight in the past few years and is known to be a heavy drinker. No one can leave a bottle of beer alone with him because it is sure to get emptied in a matter of seconds. The same can be said about valuable items in his vicinity. One of his waitresses has found this out the hard way when she left her wrist watch on the counter.
Job:
Traits
LTW
Likes
-Cecilia Costa
As the founder of the Charitable Housewives Associaton, Cecilia devotes herself to her neighborhood and is usually involved in weekly fundraisers with other women to help the less fortunate. She is seen as a saint by many but not many people are aware that she has been spending more time with Carlos Mendez than her own husband.
-Leona Costa
Following in her mother's footsteps, Leona is always taking part in town gatherings and enjoys being the center of attention. Girls want to be her and guys want to date her. But what happens when they find out the truth about her mother?
-Julian Costa
Julian has always been quite smart for his age and while most grownups see this as a good thing, other kids tend to pick on him for it. He doesn't mind, though, because he'd rather spend time with his butterfly collection than hang out with a bunch of brats.

* Carlos Mendez - SimGirlTasia232
If you ask his neighbors, they'll tell you that Carlos is a decent, well-mannered individual. He's got a smile that gleams with perfection and silly quirks that children may find entertaining. But behind this cheerful facade is a dark secret that he's never told anyone. Is he making cherry pie or is that a bloodstain on the sleeve of his shirt?
Location: Unknown
Job: Science carrier
Traits:Absent-Minded, Insane, Mooch, Artistic, Neurotic
LTW Gold digger
Likes Steak, Pop, Black

* Herberto Castillo - SimGirlTasia232
Herberto comes from a long line of talented Italian chefs and prefers to grow his own vegetables as he believes that if he wants something done right, he's going to have to do it himself. He also despises the latest gadgets simply because they make things easier for people. As his father once said, "If it isn't hard, it isn't worth it."
Location: Unknown
Job: Culinary carrier
Traits: Lucky, Loves The Outdoor, Technophobe, Green Thumb, Natural Cook
LTW Celebrated 5 Star Chef
Likes Spaghetti, Red, Latin

* Sofia Perez - SimGirlTasia232
Job:
Traits: Bookworm, Loner, Schmoozer, Friendly, Flirty
LTW Illustrious Author
Likes Salmon, Indie, Orange

* Yazmin Vasquez - SimGirlTasia232
shorter story?
Traits: Adventurous, Vegetarian, Schmoozer, Disciplined, Friendly
LTW:Seasoned Traveler
Likes: Cobbler, French Music, Irish Green

* Garza Household - SimGirlTasia232
- Diego
Traits: Ambitious, Athletic, Good Sense Of Humor, Hot-Headed, Neat
LTW: International Super Spy
Likes: Grilled Cheese, Classical, Lime
-Felipe
Age: Teenager
Traits:
Likes:

* De Luca Household - litt0_lia
-Leo
Job:
Traits: Angler, Brave, Grumpy, Handy, Loves Outdoors
LTW: Astronaut
Favorites: Hamburger, Latin, Turquoise
-Camilla
Job:
Traits: Family-Oriented, Good Sense of Humor, Hot-Headed, Natural Cook, Neat
LTW: Culinary Librarian
Favorites: Cobbler, Latin, Turquoise
-Bellina
Age: Teenager
Traits: Absent-Minded, Party Animal, Perfectionist, Snob
Favorites: Spaghetti, Pop, Spice Brown
-Lucio
Age: Child
Traits: Brave, Heavy Sleeper, Hot-Headed
Favorites: Cookies, Indie, Orange

* Ricci Household - litt0_lia
-Predita Ricci (Lilith's daughter)
Job:
Traits:Family Oriented, Absent-Minded, Great-Kisser, Natural Cook, Virtuoso
LTW: Culinary Librarian
Favorites:Blue, Classical Music, Stu Surprise
-Gabriele Ricci
Job:
Traits: Brave, Family-Oriented, Heavy Sleeper, Mean-Spirited, Technophobe
LTW: Master of the Arts
Favorites: PB&J, Indie, Aqua
-Marietta Ricci
Job:
Traits: Light Sleeper, Loner, Loves Outdoors, Unlucky, Virtuoso
LTW: Hit Movie Composer
Favorites: Grilled Salmon, Classical, Yellow
-Santino Ricci
Age: Teenager
Traits: Ambitious, Charismatic, Daredevil, Good Sense of Humour
Favorites: Falafel, Blue, Pop

* James Campbell III - litt0_lia

*Miramar household - HystericalParoxysm
- Annie Miramar
Though she grew up in a small town, Annie's always had big dreams and an insatiable wanderlust. She just can't settle down in one place, and is always travelling and exploring.
Job:
Traits: Adventurous, Good, Loves the Outdoors, Natural Cook, Photographer's Eye
LTW Seasoned Traveler
Likes Stir Fry, Electronica, Green
-Brendan Miramar
Brendan spent his childhood in his parents' library, reading about the great explorers and archaeologists of the past. Though his grades were never good enough to make a profession of it, his family's money and amateur interest allow him to spend most of his time exploring tombs for buried treasure.
Job:
Traits: Adventurous, Brave ,Angler, Disciplined, Kleptomaniac
LTW: Great Explorer
Likes Salmon, Egyptian, Spice Brown

* David Sharp - HystericalParoxysm
If you sawed him in half, David would be boring to the core. Motivated only by increasing his own personal wealth, David cares nothing for friendships or romance.
Job:
Traits: Ambitious, Computer Whiz, Frugal, Loner, Workaholic
LTW: Swimming in Cash
Favourites: Tri-Tip Steak, Classical, Grey

* Vargas Household - HystericalParoxysm
-Horatio Vargas
Whether it's watching the big game with his sons or eating his wife's home cooking, Horatio enjoys being around his family, even if he doesn't always understand them.
Job:
Traits: Family-Oriented, Good, Couch Potato, Ambitious, No Sense of Humour
LTW: Surrounded by Family
Favourites: Cheesesteak, Latin, Spice Brown
- Maria Vargas
Maria may be prone to crying at sappy commercials on tv, but her sometimes soppy nature also makes her love her large family that much more
Job:
Traits: Family Oriented, Natural Cook, Neat, Flirty, Over-Emotional
LTW: Surrounded by Family
Favourites: Cobber, Latin, Orange
-Belinda Vargas
Though she can get too caught up in her emotions, Belinda has the potential to do great things.
Age: Teen
Traits: Bookworm, Ambitious, Easily Impressed, Excitable
Favourites: Mac and Cheese, Indie, Lilac
-Diana Vargas
Her sense of style and attitude can put people off, but Diana might just get lucky and turn out okay.
Age: Teen
Traits: Lucky, Clumsy, Daredevil, Inappropriate
Favourites: Cookies, Electronica, Turquoise
-Jonah Vargas
Jonah can be a real handful, but he's a lot of fun to be around... as long as you don't mind being the one to clean up the mess afterward.
Age: Child
Traits: Slob, Party Animal, Athletic
Favourites: Hot Dogs, Pop, Blue
-Hector Vargas
Watch out for this one; he's trouble!
Age:Toddler
Traits: Evil, Genius
Favourites: Autumn Salad, Classical, Black

*Revello Household - HystericalParoxysm
-Cora Revello
Cora's silly nature can sometimes get her into a bit of trouble, but her quick wit and enjoyable personality is endearing to all but the hardest hearts.
Age: Elder
Job:
Traits: Good Sense of Humour, Neat, Artistic, Childish, Technophobe
LTW: Professional Author
Favourites: Lobster Thermidor, Kids, Sea Foam
-Martin Revello
Martin's spent his life dreaming big - most of those dreams being of his son growing up successful enough to take care of him in his old age.
Age: Elder
Job:
Traits: Couch Potato, Grumpy, Heavy Sleeper, Can't Stand Art, Mooch
LTW: Living in the Lap of Luxury
Favourites: Waffles, Classical, Turquoise
-Anton Revello
With a dazzling personality and a face to match, Anton's really going places.
Job:
Traits: Charismatic, Friendly, Good Sense of Humour, Great Kisser, Schmoozer
LTW: Star News Anchor
Favourites: Pancakes, French, Grey
-Claire Revello
It's hard to find something to like about the materialistic, fastidious Claire, but her beauty has managed to get her pretty far in life.
Job:
Traits: Hates the Outdoors, Neat, Never Nude, Perfectionist, Snob
LTW: Swimming in Cash
Favourites: Sushi, Classical, White
- Sarah Revello
A bit bookish and tomboyish, Sarah is a constant disappointment to her mother, who is upset about her daughter growing up to use her mind and body to do something other than manipulating rich men.
Age: Child
Traits: Athletic, Friendly, Bookworm
Favourites: Grilled Cheese, Kids, Blue

*Scomparin Household - unlikely
- Nestero Scomparin
Having to raise Venceslao and Zita alone meant Nestero never got the quiet life he wanted. Now that Zita has moved back in with her children, his dreams of a quiet retirement seem to be fading fast too.
Age: Elder
Job: Retired Patrol officer
Traits: Angler, Coward, Family Oriented, Good, Technophobe
LTW:
Favourites:
- Venceslao Scomparin
Venceslao is completely unphased by criticism, and takes 'nouveau riche' as a compliment. Unfortunately, he hasn't got the 'riche' part down yet, but he's sure he will soon enough!
Job: Corporate Drone
Traits: Ambitious, Hates the outdoors, Mean Spirited, Good sense of humour, Snob
LTW:
Favourites:
- Zita Scomparin
Growing up, Zita always thought her first love would be her last. Unfortunately, her first love turned out to have commitment issues and left her after their second child Aurelia was born. Now that Aurelia has started school, Zita has gone back to work and is starting to rebuild her life. Will she find true love this time around?
Job: 'Intake Specialist' at Spa
Traits: Friendly, Hopeless Romantic, Photographer's Eye, Loser, Neurotic
LTW:
Favourites:
- Davide Scomparin
Age: Teen
Traits: Brave, Handy, Hotheaded, Virtuoso
Favourites:
- Aurelia Scomparin
Age: Child
Traits: Adventurous, Bookworm, Kleptomaniac
Favourites:

*Saverio Paolini - unlikely
Job: Anonymous Source Handler
Traits: Commitment Issues, Flirty, Hotheaded, Shmoozer, Workaholic
LTW:
Favourites:
* Valeria ?
Job: Journalism career (top)
Traits: Artistic, Charismatic, Dislikes Children, Flirty, Perfectionist
LTW:
Favourites:


*Antonacci Household - unlikely
- Delfina Antonacci
Job: Crime boss
Traits: Disciplined, Kleptomaniac, Workaholic, Ambitious, Family-oriented
LTW:
Favourites:
- Emiliana Antonacci
Job:
Traits: Adventurous, Daredevil, Hot-headed, Lucky, Over-emotional
LTW:
Favourites:
- Annunziata Antonacci
Age: Elder
Job: Retired Kitchen scullion
Traits: Flirty, Good, Natural Cook, Neat, Technophobe
LTW: [/U]
Favourites:
- Floriano Antonacci
Age: Child
Traits: Family Oriented, Frugal, Genius
Favourites:
- Fedele Antonacci
Age: Toddler
Traits: Loner
Favourites:
- Franca Antonacci
Age: Toddler
Traits: Friendly
Favourites:

Ghosts

* Lilith - litt0_lia
Traits:Neurotic, Loner, Unlucky, Green Thumb, Hopeless Romantic
LTW: Perfect Garden
Likes: Ratatouille, French Music, White

* Niccolo Ricci - litt0_lia
Traits:Ambitious, Athletic, Brave, Can't Stand Art, Charismatic
LTW: Leader of the Free World
Likes: Cheese Steak, Indie Music, Irish Green

* Antonio's wife and son - SimGirlTasia232

* Wrenna - litt0_lia

* Beau - litt0_lia

I'll keep the post updated. Tell me if I forgot something or make a mistake.

Lillith(?) Lilith(?) Descendant, with Lillith and James(Tasia's Idea)..why does this sound like Harry Potter all of a sudden? XDD
Lillith's descendant (not sure what the spelling is) her name is, Lila? Leila? Lily? Something relating to her grandmother.



Real Lillith Reference, But dark skin



James, MATY hair, henley(from store) I'm not sure which pack it came from, but I think it's free. I think it came from JC Penney?


Will be editing later xP

Okay since litt0_lia is doing Lilith and her Lover i made some sims also. Not really a good Guy sim maker but i try and i try my best at Females i'm not the best but i love my simmies lol



Same Sim Different Look


Another Girl


Guy


Any thoughts and ideas on how they can tie into the story line?

Edited my post above.
Here is Lillith. I'm not sure if she is exotic enough. If she looks similar to her descendant, that was my goal. I want the descendant to almost look exactly like Lillith. So here she is. I feel I might want to make her face slightly slimmer, because the descendant gets her chubby cheeks from James. And maybe more fierce instead of nice?




And the sims you made Tasia are really fantastic, what if they were to be Jame's brother, and his family. The brother could possibly be paler? And less posh since I think James would be somewhat of a fisher ;D
The red head(short) would possibly be linked to Lillith's descendant, probably a cousin and close friend.

Oh wow, your new Lilith is stunning, Littl0_Lia! I think she's perfect, since she's a goddess in her lover's eyes and a threat to the rest of the town. I think keeping her that way would be good. It's like she has two sides. You can see her nicer, innocent self through her eyes, while her hair and lipstick bring out her darker, dangerous qualities (the mysterious disease and her power over her lover).

James reminds me of a male version of Anne Hathaway. Very cute!

Your sims are gorgeous, SimGirlTasia. I think the third one looks really realistic. I agree with Littl0_Lia, they could be related to Lilith and/or James. Why don't we make the third girl one of Wrenna's descendants? Unless you don't want to make her hydrophobic.

Here are a few names I've thought of in case anyone wants to use them:

Marina (meaning "of the sea" in Latin)
This could be one of Lilith's descendants.

Eve
Another one of Lilith's descendants and/or family members.

Kenneth ("fire-born, good-looking", Irish and Gaelic)
James's brother.

Talula (of Native American origin, "leaping water")
If this were one of Wrenna's descendants' names, it would be ironic since most people from her line are afraid of the sea.

Adam
Can we give this name to Lilith's husband? According to those who believe that she was his first wife (in the Bible), she ran away from him and that's when she became the "night demon", etc. So I thought it would make sense since Littl0_Lia's character runs away from her husband and becomes a danger to the town because of the plague.

EDIT: Added name suggestions

Alright, first thing I'm going to do is establish some useful rules to help us work better.

CC used for sims creation:
Free stuff only! I don't want the player to have a huge list of cc to download to be able to play, so, we'll keep it to a minimum and try to use the same cc if possible. You can go crazy with the cc that we will not keep (historical people) but make sure to keep the list so that we can give credits.

Default-skin question: I'm on the edge for this. I would say yes for the historical people (that no longer lives) If we use it for the ghosts, and then put it off, does the ghosts change?

Credits/CC list:
We will have to credit and link to the cc used, so, I will need you to keep track WHILE doing the sims (and avoid the: shoot! what cc did I used back then and the frenetic wild search that goes after that thought) and tell me about it so that I can establish a clear list of the cc.

Traits:
I will need you to give me a clear list of the traits, like dislike and longtime wish of your character, and a little text about them.

Also, I need to make a point: I know that you like to build pretty sims but we will need realistic sims. Some are going to be pretty, some will look casual, others will be rather ugly, some will be fat, etc. And we also need child, elder... Try to make them interesting and unique. Variety is our friend :D

Now for the comments:

SimGirlTasia232: As I already said, your sims looks nice. I'd like you to try and make an old fisherman. Charming could help you with his story to make him really unique. We could use your sims for maybe Wrenna's family. You would have to see with Charming since it's his story.

Littl0_Lia:

-Lilith: Good job, I really like the eyes and the lipstick. The choice of hair is perfect. Some things could be changed though to make her even better. More fierce and exotic would be great. She's looking a little bit too Irish because of the freckles and the skin tone. Could you darken her a bit (more Persian look?). And the jaw is maybe too round and I would change the nose a bit. Look at the painting, she almost has a Grecian profile that gives her that haughty look and her jaw is more defined. Oh! And her eyes are dark, a beautiful dark brown.

-James: I'm sorry but we can't advocate piracy so I need to be sure that it's a MATY created hair. Garden of shadows has a lot of beautiful free creations, you should check it out. Otherwise, I do like James a lot! One thing, if he was a fisher, he'd certainly be a more suntanned.

Charming, these are great names. Let's try to give it an order and make a family tree to make things clearer and also decide how many generations between Lilith and the living ones.

Making the people that are dead and belong to the past is not going to be our priority so I think that James brother or family may wait. They'll just end up in the cemetery and the museum. We will have to decide however of who lives and is related to Lilith and James family but I'd like also some ideas on typical characters like the fool of the village, the drunk old fisherman, the bully, etc. Have fun!

Edit: HP has made some great hair that is a lot like James's. Maybe we could take it instead?

Thanks everyone for your nice comments... Working with charming would be awesome so i think making the third girl one of Wrenna's descendants would be great... But will she live? Talula would be perfect for her but we don't have to go that way we could give her a different look. is there anything to change about her?

lanawinst: making an old fisherman would be great i will try and make a couple next time i play (most likely 20 mins from now lol). also i don't use much cc just default skin, default eyes,and defualt faces, and Peggy hairs but i never package them with the hairs because they are pay hairs. but yes if you make their ghosts with default cc and then people downloading it without that cc it reverts back to the original skin so if people want them to look like they do in the pics they will have to download the skin

Thanks for the info, Tasia. So, what we could do is choose 1 default skin/faces and eyes and stick with it, and since HystericalParoxysm is one of the sims creator wouldn't it be best to use her skins etc?

We'll have to see also with lia and HP what they think about that idea.

For the peggy hair, I would rather not use pay content at all even if it's not included. Let's show to the players what they can really have without having to pay. We should also try to use EA's stuff most of the time unless we think it's really not going to be getting along with the character. In that case there's a lot of free hair here and in other sites.

For the non-default skin, we could do it but only in a very special case (like the illness).

Yea i rather not use and pay items either i get my hairs from the booty

But while i was away i have been doing some work. i been thinking for the fisherman we should call him Elliot i have been working on him just need his story to really finish him off So here's what i got

Elliot Termorton



Traits
-Angler
-Bookworm
-Loves The Outdoors
-Over-Emotional
-Never Nude
LTW
-Perfect Aquarium
Likes
-Lobster
-Classical Music
-Color- Teal

And some other characters i came up with their names is just something i picked out for the moment and we can change them if we use them

Crystal Summers


Traits
-Absent Minded
-Loner
-Lucky
-Artistic
-Commitment Issues
LTW
- Gold Digger
Favorites
-Grilled Cheese
-Pop Music
-Purple

Ben Willows


Traits
-Absent Minded
-Childish
-Insane
-Mooch
-Inappropriate
LTW
?
Favorites
-Steak
-Pop
-Black

My CC List:
Eyes--Shady- Luminous eye Defulats- http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=386381
Skintone-Female- http://www.peggyzone.com/Sims3Detai...00002&sortId=00
Male- http://www.peggyzone.com/Sims3Detai...00004&sortId=00
Face-Kanno's Face Replacements- http://www.digitalperversion.net/ga...p?topic=14272.0

Please don't promote the booty, I'm pretty sure it's forbidden here. Piracy issues.

Awesome sims! I'm going to comment sim by sim:

- Elliot: love his grumpy face! Maybe you could accentuate it? And add this trait instead of over-emotional? And for the clothes, could you take a more marine motive for the sweater under his overall? And give him other shoes more adapted to his lifestyle and age?

- Crystal : She's gorgeous indeed. Maybe you or charming could make a little story to explain her traits?

- Ben: He is really good-looking but I fail to see a relation with his traits. Since he is not only insane and childish, but all the above it would be great if you could use them. For example his eyes are too bright, and he seems to take good care of him, of his appearance and I imagine someone with all these traits doing the contrary.

Edit: Thank for the links I'd like you to try them with HP skins, do you mind? It's better to promote MTS stuff since it's a MTS creation and peggy skins are nice but not the best for us, I think. For example, the male skin is too muscular which can be nice for a particular character but it seams weird that everyone in the town would be that muscular! And if I remember correctly, it looks really weird when your sims is fat. Shady eyes are indeed a very good choice, I find them beautifully expressive.

Thanks Lana I was thinking the same with Ben's traits i thought about changing them after i put him up here would be rather odd for him to have all those traits and his looks doesn't go with it but i also thought maybe he could be one of those townsfolk who look normal from the outside but when getting close to him find him a little insane and start to gossip about him which shames him and he runs away or kills himself maybe?

and you are so right about the Peggy skin on the males i hate it lol i love the female version but the male version is like saying everyone has to be muscular and its not like that in RL so not in game either i have been trying to find new skin replacements forever i have never seen HP's so will search and try them i may like them better. I am also keen to the skins by Kanno they are pretty awesome too and i think they are on MTS also.

Elliot: this was the first draft i still have a lot of work to do on him epically with his clothes and shoes

I didn't read all the posts yet, but I know that the hair I have isn't piracy. Someone made it ON MATY. I might have to change hair for Lillith's Descendant, and Lillith because those are pay hairs. Think I might just use one of Anubis' hairs for Lillith. And a skeletalscream hair for descendant.

IMO I would prefer using aikea guinea's skintone.

EDIT: I'm going to be away for a while, so I might not post. I'll work on some interesting sims.

And what about sliders? I have AM and sliders set to 3x. What if we just make everything base game? All EA stuff(Base and WA, No HELS). It will be easier for everyone to download

I also have AM also with the sliders set to 3x also i also have i have WA and HELS also but i don't know how i can do just base game please explain that to me.

Sorry for asking but with MATY you have to since they have a lot of things. For the hairs take any that you think you need. You're the sim artist, after all!

I like Aikea Guinea skins too, so I'm ok to use them of course. I'm not trying to restrain your creativity or your tastes just trying... well... to make it easier for the player and unify. Since we're a group it's harder since we all have our stuff that we love to use but we're going to use each other stuff sometimes to try to not ending up with a huge cc list. As long as we reach an agreement on using the same cc and doesn't use pay cc I'm good. Well actually using the same cc is not something that we MUST do but the less people had to download the better, no? Unless in this case you think we could use two different default skins?

Going on vacation I guess? Have fun For the sliders we'll have to tell the people that they need awesome mod. I'm ok with you on trying to use base game and WA but not HELS. First because for now none of the builders have it and it's maybe too contemporary for us.

Edit: Tasia, you'll have to check the hair and clothes that came with HELS and not use them. But you can use the one from WA since we're gonna use it anyway.

Sorry for the late response, everyone. I was out all day and just got home. I think it'd be good to stick to Lana's rules to keep things simple for creators as well as players. I'm going to miss the hair Littl0Lia used for Lilith, though. That one's gorgeous!

SimGirlTasia, here are some ideas for your sims that I've thought of:

Talula (Third Girl) - She's one of Wrenna's descendants and a playable sim which means that players can visit her house and control her right away. Like others in her family she possesses the Hydrophobic trait and currently works at The Swordfish Bar & Grill (a local hangout). Since she's afraid of the water, that's the closest she's ever gonna get to fish. If you'd like to change her hair you could try something shorter.

Elliot Termorton - I agree with Lana on Elliot's appearance. Maybe a makeover would be a good idea.

Crystal Summers - Lovely name, by the way. We could make her work as a receptionist at a spa if you'd like. She would much rather spend all day painting pictures of the sea but she's lacking in inspiration at the moment and knows that her hobby may not be able to pay the bills. She's currently involved with one of the town's wealthiest businessmen who owns a fish trading company. Being a gold digger, she's not truly in love with him.

Ben Willows - I like the idea of him being somewhat normal on the outside but a tad nutty on the inside. Instead of having him kill himself, however, he could have killed someone instead and kept it to himself...hence the insanity. Making him Neurotic might be good too, since he'd always be watching his back.

Can't use pay hair in stuff on MTS - you can mention the Booty all you want in threads or whatever (booty booty booty pay stuff for free PMBD woot nyerrrr! ... see? ) but not allowed for MTS uploads.

RE: CC, I think it'd REALLY be best to stick to defaults if at all possible, too. Having a massive shopping list just for sims in a neighborhood is not fair to downloaders. If we can agree on a -few- pieces of CC that are extremely versatile (Channy & Viv's lips, maybe that one set of eyebags that everyone uses, etc.) but -not- get into custom clothes/hair/patterns/blah/etc. it'll make both the upload process and download process a hell of a lot easier on everyone involved. It'll also mean the sims are mostly about the face sculpt rather than content used - and since they'll be inhabitants to breed with player's sims, IMO, that's what's most important.

I think it'd probably be okay if we just list which defaults we've used on the whole - for example, something like:



... with each of the names direct linked to where the item can be found. People aren't going to change their defaults just for one neighborhood, but we'd still be crediting what's used in the pics.

I agree with HP, the fewer CC items we use, the easier it will be for the players. And I forgot to mention earlier that we should probably have the same rules for dead sims (ghosts) in case players decide to resurrect characters like Lilith and James.

Really? We're not getting electrocuted or suffer from this awful curse where toads keep getting off our mouths every time we open the mouth? I'm feeling so relieved now!

I agree with HP too. The most important part is really the face sculpt and furthermore players will probably want to make changes with their favorite clothes, hairs, etc anyway. Let's not use hair, clothes and the above at all. We still have to agree on the few cc (skin - eyes - facial) though.

You're right Charming, it's going to be applied to the ghosts too.

Off to edit the rules now :P

Tasia, are you still working on Elliot, Crystal, Talula and Ben? I'm looking forward to see what you will make of them

yes i'm still working on them i have made two different elliots for you to choose from just have to get pics i was so tired lol but with Talula what should i change about her? and Ben is the last one i have to finish up.

Yeah! Two Elliots! Can't wait to see the pictures .

For Talula, I'd like to see how she looks without the CC, if you don't mind. Is Crystal already made without cc? She looks like it but I'm not sure about it.

Yea i tried to make them all without CC besides the skin and eyes i use all hair is base game or WA and same as the clothes i'm going to get the pics in a few mins

Edit: Here are the new versions so far...

Talula


Traits
-Good Sense Of Humor
-Bookworm
-Hopeless Romantic
-Excitable
-Hydrophobic
LTW
World Renowned Surgeon
Likes
-Cheesesteak
-Electronica
-Pink

Abbey Slater(Not sure about the name though)



Traits
-Family Oriented
-Snob
-Bookworm
-Hopeless Romantic
-Excitable
LTW
Living In The Lap Of Luxury
Likes
-Lobster
-Classical
-Purple

Elliot(2 Versions His traits are still the same)



I forgot to change his Hat lol



James


Traits
-Lucky
-Loves The Outdoors
-Technophobe
-Green Thumb
-Natural Cook
LTW
Celebrated 5 Star Chef
Likes
-Spaghetti
-Latin
-Red

Ben(I didnt change much but his eyes)

I personally think your sims look much better without CC, SimGirlTasia. Talula has some of the best features. You've done a great job making her stand out. I prefer the second Elliot's overalls but I kinda like him better without the hat. And you should keep the freckles since he spends a lot of time under the sun.

Oh yeah, I just noticed--both yours and Litt0_Lia's sims are named James. We should probably give them last names so it doesn't get confusing. And would you like me to come up with Abbey Slater's story? I don't think she has one yet.

I agree with Charming, you gave them such nice features that they look really nice even without CC. and the second Elliot looks better, and freckles would be a nice add. Maybe change the white shirt to a blue&white stripes marine motives?

I also like the fact that you can actually guess the traits by looking at the sim. Abbey looks like such a nice girl, she's got this romantic, fragile look. I think that the World Renowned Surgeon is a great choice, as she looks smart, and like she has a strong temper. I would personally change Hopeless Romantic with something else like genius or perfectionist to fit that. James is nice as he is. Our dexter is nice too, with his enigmatic eyes. Could you just tell me what his new traits are going to be?

Oh, and maybe we should create some couples with some of them and create their childs. There's going to be too many bachelors otherwise.

Edit: I just noticed James and Ben have the same nose. You should try to tweak it a little more.

Thanks Guys Talula is one of those sims i have been working on for a long time her and Abbey i like certain things to stand out on my sims i usally start with one of the defualt faces and craft it to what i think is best i like the Second Elliot also i just want to change his eyes and nose a bit. i think the Marine suit would look great I will try as soon as possible. I do agree with Charming with the two James Lol i didn't realize until just now. But Lana which one are we changing to Dexter?

Charming: I'm Going to try my best at coming up with a story for Abbey. I agree with what Lana said about changing her to a Perfectionist it will suit her great and help with her story also.

Sorry, there's no Dexter I was just joking by calling Ben Dexter because the normal guy being in reality a crazy guy made me think of the show Dexter

Sorry also if I wasn't clear enough, I meant perfectionnist for Talula. Hopeless romantic fits Abbey so well it would be a pity to change it, IMO.

Oh ok no i didn't change their traits so they are still the same but Talula does look abit like a perfectionist also i changed up Elliot abit and changed his outfit. I changed his nose and his cheeks to tone them down.




Lana is this more of what you were talking about Marine Style?

Could you do the same to grumpy Elliot? I do feel that he's the best of the two. I really like that one too but I prefer the other one, and that's exactly what I meant. Just blue on blue might be a lot, could you change the texture of the overall to the one you used with grumpy Elliot.

Oh! And what about making him some kind of blush to make him look a little bit drunk too :P

Ok Lana i changed up grumpy ole Elliot so here is the new version of him also gave him some blush but not sure about it though. also got a pic with some age spots to see if you like him that way.



Different Hair

Age Spots

He's such a great sim! His clothes are perfect! What about giving him some fish shoes like boots? I like him better with the first hair. The age spots are a good idea, could you tweak them some more to blend more with the skin under the eyes?

I looked for boots to give him but the boots are only available for YA and Adult. the age spots are what came with the game and i can't tweak those. i think it looks great on him though but the eye bags not being able to tweak are a let down

I know, sometimes it's frustrating that they didn't gave us the tool to do everything we'd like. I'm actually furious against my sims 3 construction tools that doesn't let me do the city hall as I would like to But that's ok for this, he looks good with it anyway. Does elder have the ranger boots? They could offer some kind of replacement.

You should rename him and all your sims too since we decided to take spanish/italian names instead. sleepyrose gave very handful links in the neighborhood thread.

Yeah i feel the same with the building tools i don't build alot but when i do i get put off because i can't do whatever i want to do but yes i saw the links and will give them more Spanish/Italian names

Elliot Termorton--> Antonio Ortega
Crystal Summers--> Anita Torres
Ben Willows--> Carlos Mendez
Talula--> Not sure if we are changing hers
Abbey Slater--> Nadia Vega
James--> Herberto Castillo

Great names! For Talula it seems to me exotic enough and we'll just have to let Charming find her last name.

LOL...what a strange coincidence, Lana. I was just thinking of the Dexter show too since Ben has this "happy one the outside, messed up on the inside" appearance. He'd make an interesting character.

The new Spanish names you came up with are great, SimGirlTasia. I especially like the names Antonio Ortega and Carlos Mendez. For Talula...how about Alvaro? It's supposed to mean "extremely cautious" or "all guard" in Spanish, which would fit her character since she fears the sea. Talula Alvaro.

I think Lilith is the only one who may not need a Spanish last name since she's a foreigner.

Alvaro, both meaningful and pretty, nice find! You're right, Lilith can stay Lilith since she's a foreigner. Lilith what we don't know yet though.

Ben who's no longer Ben is going to be a real interesting character indeed.Can't wait to see what story you guys will find for him.

Thanks guys i mostly picked the names from RL people i know lol i have alot of spanish family but now that i'm home i think i'm going to play Nadia and see how she is and come up with a story for her as i go

Okay i was doing some work on Talula tonight mainly on her outfits to make sure she wasn't wearing any cc clothes and thought she would look great with dark hair and i based all he outfits from her favorite color pink

Pretty sim, tasteful choices and based on the favorite color, what's not to like! You're doing a great work Who's next? Nadia I guess?

Yea i'm going to do Nadia and Anita tonight and finish up Carlos Herberto and Antonio in the morning. I like to cater to the ladies lol I will have an update one them before i go to bed

Ok Talula, Nadia, and Anita are all done here is Anita and Nadia all finished up

Anita I thought the pony tail on her looks Beautiful



Nadia The short hair defines her face alot more than the others. What do you think?



I also changed their traits tot he right ones and have them packaged and ready to go when we are ready now for the guys i may also make a few large Sims tomorrow but as for now i'm tired and going to bed good night all .

Made a family, critiqued Lillith and her daughter. Going to upload them tomorrow. They MTS hairs, so they're free. I used clear eyes by icedmango, aikea guinea skin. I think Lillith's daughters name will be Camilla. Oh yeah, I used natural lips from MTS. Not using my pretty lips because I can't remember where they're from. When we make this world, we should warn downloaders if they don't have certain skins, some sims won't show up the way they were created. I don't think I'm going to use peggy skins, because her skins really TRANSFORM sims. I'll do the little outfit thingy like Tasia did. Might be big, because I get really lazy sometimes when editting pics.

All of your female sims look great so far, SimGirlTasia. I like how you dressed them in their favorite colors and I personally think that Anita's the hottest, especially in that Everyday outfit. Nadia's face shape fits her pixie cut and her outfits reflect her personality a lot.

I'm looking forward to seeing new pics of Lilith and her daughter, Littl0_Lia. Also, I just thought of a name for one of their descendants: Esperanza, which means "hope" in Spanish.

Thanks Charming to be honest i fell in love with all three of them over the time as i worked on them more. Nadia is great to play for what i have played (Mostly just put her in a house and she how she does by herself as a townie and as played) So i think i came up with a story for. Nadia Came to (Name of town) looking to get a fresh start on life from what seemed like a troubled childhood. She wants the best out of life and thinks she can make that happen here. She is rather the snob but she is the life of the party when she is out and about. She does have a quite side to her. She loves to read and write romance novels. She dreams of the day she will find her one true love who will sweep her off her feet. She wants a small family to keep her legacy alive as the richest people to ever live in town.

It's hard not to love your sims, SimGirlTasia, they're all so pretty. I really like Nadia's story. You should create a potential soul mate for her to fall in love with.

Speaking of which, would you be interested in creating another sim? Sleepyrose thought it might be a good idea if one of the locals could own the Swordfish Bar and Grill where Talula works. So maybe if we had another character as her boss? If not, we could use existing characters such as Carlos or Herberto.

Tania, I'm loving their new hairs. Just one tiny detail, their clothes are a little too yellow/pink and the exact same one. Could you make maybe some different pink/yellow and vary just a bit ?

Good idea Charming, I really like to see what Tania can come up with the bar's boss. Since you talked about bigger sims, you know he's working in a bar/restaurant and too much beer and food... I'm seeing more Herberto working in the pizzeria, don't know why...

lia, I'm so excited to see your family and what you made of lilith Just one thing, we can't use cc for sims other than skin, and eyes and maybe lips. An even for that it would be better to have the same one. If there's 3 creators with 3 different choices can you imagine the list it's going to be...

Thanks charming and no i don't mind making more sims I am working on someone for Nadia to fall in love with and mate with Hopefully he will live up to it she's one of those high class girls lol

Lana: You posted before me lol but yea i can mix them up And now that i know you want the bar ower to be a guy i think i have the perfect idea for him but the peggy skins have to they make all my females bodys look the same do you suggest any? i tried HP's i like them but i don't like them you know what i mean lol.

Either gender would be fine. Lana does have a point, though. Considering all that beer and food, this sim may have to be on the heavier side. We can name the sim Pablo if you create a man and Bertha if it's a woman. Pablo/Bertha is a slob and although liked by many due to their sparkling personality, he/she secretly likes to swipe things that don't belong to them. Talula should be careful and not leave valuable items lying around!

I hope the guy you're creating for Nadia is worthy as well.

EDIT: Oops..I posted late too. LOL. Okay, so it's settled then. The bar owner is a guy.

Tania, you could try aikea guinea skin since they are the one lia uses. I'm sure Nadia's boy will be great, I'm curious to see what he's going to looks like.

I don't want necessarily a boy either gender would be nice. Loving his/her story already

Thanks Lana will try that one out... I went back to my old ones by kanno for now but i would prefer the bar owner to be a guy some one that Talula can hate on the inside and try to take over his business

Charming: i love the names but i was thinking more of Raul Costa and Dante Mancini for the guys. but i love your names maybe we can come up with meore people and use them also. Ok so here is what i got done so far just their faces and first outfit mainly.

Raul Costa Bar Owner



Traits
-Slob
-Kleptomaniac
-Party-Animal
-Heavy-Sleeper
-Handy
-LTW Bottomless Nectar Cellar
-Likes Hamburger, Pop, Green

Dante Mancini Going to be Nadia's Husband



-Traits
-Brave
-Athletic
-Vegetarian
-Great-Kisser
-Family-Orientated
-LTW International Super Spy
-Likes French Toast, Classical, Red

I have a question, will Lillith's daughter be second generation? And her father still alive? Or will both parents be dead, and Lillith's daughter is old now, but Lillith's daughter has a daughter o-o Sorry, if that doesn't make sense heh heh. I'm gonna go change the hair now then ;P I really like the name Fantasia and Marietta xP

Your raul has a nice start, could you tweak him some more to make him look even more unique and Dante looks a little bit too much like herberto, can you try to make him look different?

Edit: lia, you're the creator of Lilith story so do as you think is best but I imagine since Lilith was burnt that it must have happened a long time ago, and the protagonists would be dead.

Raul Costa sounds like a great name for him, SimGirlTasia. And we can definitely use the other names later when we work on their neighbors. I think he's just the right size with good features but maybe more facial hair? It's EA's fault for not giving you a wider selection. I love the outfit, by the way. I can already picture him being a bartender and being hated by Talula...lol. Dante's a cutie. He reminds me of a Disney character. Probably cause of the eyes.

And yeah, Littl0_Lia, I think Lilith's daughter would be a part of the second generation. It would make sense for her father to be dead cause if she's old and has a daughter then it would be impossible for him to have lived that long. Don't worry, players can always resurrect him and Lilith. I love the name Marietta!

Lana: thanks i'm not 100% done on Raul and you and me were thinking the same thing about Dante how they look alike almost like twins i also want to try a different guy with a different tone maybe a paleish (if that's even a word) green or more paler tan

Charming: Thanks and i totally agree EA could of been a bit more generous when it comes to things like that but i try to just cope with what i got until it gets better hopefully

Just an idea but maybe Nadia could be Dante childhood's best friend and he would be secretly in love with her. We'd have to make them be that in game too, with codes I guess we can.

That sounds like an excellent idea. We can add tidbits in their bios and set their relationship scores using Twallan's Supercomputer. It can even set family ties. Don't worry, players don't need to download the Supercomputer to play the World. We can just use it to set relationships and stuff.

Nice! We will be able to customize nearly everything. Another idea but raul seems to be the married type

Lana: thats awesome sounds like a great idea to me

Charming: I have no idea how to use the super computer but am willing to learn

Also i changed Dante up and would like for you guys to pick which one you like best. His traits are still the same though. And gave Raul a bit of a makeover. tweaked his eyes and cheeks a bit.



I like this one more

Raul


Edit: Lana i do think he looks like the marriage type

Ahh, I like him a lot now My vote is on the second. Just a detail but could you tweak his nose? I noticed that the male have the same kind of nose except our dear Antonio.

For Raul, have you tried him very tan too? It might suit him, with some dark hair too. There's too many red hair for a Mediterranean town :P

Edit: loving the beard for raul! He has the same mouth as Dante though, you'd have to change it a bit

I don't know why but even though the second Dante looks hot, I kinda like the first one with the vampire-pale complexion. Tan would be good, though. And I second Lana on Raul's beard. It's better than the first.

The Supercomputer's quite simple, I'm sure you'll get used to it after a while. You basically just click your sims' computer (after installing the mod) and choose which sims to pair up and which sims to make related to each other. You can even set their skills.

Charming: does the super computer work with AM? it sounds pretty cool though

Lana: Lol they do have the same lips that's strange... i guess that's due to me liking the lips a specific way but i can change them that's no prob

Lillith Callaway(Not sure if this is a good surname)


Nicolo Ricci Kind of a fisherman bummy style ;P


Marietta Ricci This will be the grand-daughter, so she will be third generation. Yet to work on the REAL love child.


Leo De Luca


Camilla De Luca Leo's wife


Bellina De Luca Leo and Camilla's child


Tell me what you think, and give me some critiquing. (=

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does. Here's the link to the latest version which, according to Twallan, is compatible with any patch level:

http://ts3.tscexchange.com/index.php?topic=1300.0

EDIT: I didn't realize Littl0_Lia had posted before me. Your sims look great! I really like the De Luca family and Callaway sounds like a good name, although if come up with any more that'd be cool too. On ThinkBabyNames it says that Perdita means "lost" so you could use that as a last name if you like.

And as I said before, James reminds me of Anne Hathaway...lol. He's so cute. OMG what if his and Lilith's love child ends up looking like Anne?

EDIT #2: Sorry, I just realized that 'Perdita' would probably be better as Lilith's daughter's name instead of her last. According to the same site Predita was a Shakesperean character whose father wasn't certain if she was his real daughter and that her mom might have had an affair with another man.

LOL, I didn't realize he looked like Anne Hathaway. And I just watched Valentine's day a week ago o-o
Perhaps it's those big pixelly brown eyes? It would be pretty cool if the child did look like Anne ;P ... Oh man, I don't want to make another man sim XD
But, I am going to do it..after I make a crappy family tree with paint. :D

Edit: What if Lillith's husband to be was named James instead? And he would be of the british type? Reminds me of James Hopper, my friends frog ... o _ o?

So how would James Campbell do? I also really like that name, Will def. use

LOL...you're right, it's definitely the eyes. And I think Anne would look good as a man, now that I've seen James. Also, I edited my post twice (sorry) and added a name suggestion for their daughter.

First of all, your Nicolo and marietta are totally gorgeous and unique, perfect I admit making the child, Perdita look also like nicolo would be nice, but we should wait to have a final lilith so that she inherit both her ancestors traits. Maybe Marietta could be another sim?

Camilla and Bellina are great but they still have the generic ea feeling, you'll probably need to work more on their facial structures. Leo is nice though

As for Lilith, I really like the sim but she doesn't look ambiguous and haughty enough to be Lilith. I'm reposting the Lilith inspiration I compared with:



Could you also give me their traits etc so that I can complete the list in the 1st thread and for the finish sims a picture of them with their different clothes?

Lia they look awesome i'm in the same boat as Charming i love the De Luca family. I also kind of loathe making men but we have to for breeding purposes well that's how i see it lol but Lillith and Marietta look alot alike is it suppose to be that way. if she's a grandchild i don't think she should look exactly like her.

Charming: now that you mention it he does look alot like Anne she would be one hot guy

James Campbell is a nice name but wouldn't fit with the plague story. Lilith was suspected because she was the foreigner, if her lover was also not a local he'd probably be suspected too.

Edit : I didn't realized James was the husband. She was already married to a foreigner? She sure like to travel :p

Uhm kay. I find hair really changes a sims appearance, EA really pisses me off because they don't supply us with long curly hairs. - _ -'' But IMHO, I really like how Bellina looks because it's made with the De Luca genetics. Might be just her makeup because she's a snob, but I'll fix Camilla. And then I'll start my baby maker xP

Edit: Lana:
[strike]Yes, but doesn't James come after the plague? And wouldn't it be cool if after he finds out Lillith is dead, he goes back to where he came from. And then gets married, but all his family knows well he is missing something. So his grand son would try to fufill his wish?[/strike]

Edit: Opps Lana editted her post XP
Edit again: Charming, I actually didn't realize you were calling him James..Till you mentioned it . _ . Thank god for family trees?

Anyway, here are my Family Trees. Going to fix Lillith then edit my pic post to add traits, LTW, and likes.

Okay, so James is now Nicolo...but who's James? As in Lilith's husband James. He's not made yet, right? I'm sorry, I kept referring to the Anne Hathaway guy as James. I just realized you've named him Nicolo.

I think that's because you first named lilith's lover (now nicolo) james. That's why we were mistaken.

I like the story of the james grandson coming to the town to find out about his grandfather fiancee past

Edit: We could even make it more dramatic. Lilith flew when she was pregnant from James and he knew she was and never found where she went. James III always heard of the story of his grandfather fiancee and always wondered about the baby who would be her aunt/uncle so he ventured until he finally found the village that was her last stop. Will he uncover the past?

But then James wouldn't have a grandson cause it's Nicolo and Lilith who have a child together during the affair. But I think I kinda get it now. And oh, I just realized that we have yet to name Perdita's mystery lover. That should be fun.

Maybe Nicolo thinks he's the father

LOL...but Nicolo is the father...hehe. And he has to be, cause I want the Anne Hathaway genetics to pass on to the future generation.

I sorta want the baby to be Nicolo and Lillith's, if not, we have to change how the disease spread and completely eliminate the dormancy.

So what happen to the first baby? that's a mystery we could try to explain.

No, I want that too. Nicolo has good genes! And you're right, the story would require a baby that comes from the two of them and not James. What would happen to James, though?

There could be a sister (James baby), or the baby died at birth or else.

Maybe since Lillith hated James so much, she neglected the baby. James believed in Lillith too much and refused to hire a midwife/nanny. The baby ended up being taken away by the social worker?

And man, I hate how sims blink everytime I try to do eyes blechh. Can't ever tell how eyes look.

EDIT: Lana, do you think I would be able to use one cc clothes item? It's by poppy and very EA esque. I really like it and none of the dresses really 'fit' well.

Or maybe after Lilith's death he ends up with another woman and this ends up being Perdita's half-sister since they have the same mother but different fathers?

Or the baby is that crazy old woman/man living in a lost witch hut

edit: I'm just trying to explain the running away pregnant that would cause james III to go looking for lilith story, so james + lilit = crazy lunatic big sis and lilith + nicolo = perdita.

But the baby is Perdita's daughter, right?

EDIT: Yeah that would be good. Then players could find out that those two were related even though we won't make it obvious.

Nope, see my edit :P

lol...just did.

Editted my last post, but I'm a little confused. Wouldn't it still be incest according to EA. Anyone connected to a sims familytree is off limits.

EDIT: If James III were ever to get together with Marietta, which me like XD

Okay, so James should have the baby with someone else so that there would be no family relations at all once we get to James III and Marietta's generation.

Allright, i'll try summarize everything and you'll tell me if it's ok.

Lilith flew to our town when she was pregnant from James and he knew she was but never found out where she went. In there, she found in love with niccolo. she already had the child when she arrived in town but she hated her first born because he/she reminded her of james so she neglected the kid. In there, she found in love with niccolo and had a little girl but the plague became huge and she was burned. Niccolo took care of his daughter but never knew about the kid since lilith never told him and he/she was hidden somewhere and then found by someone who lived in the woods who raised him/her as his child.
Many years later, James III always heard of the story of his grandfather fiancee and always wondered about the baby who would be her aunt/uncle so he ventured until he finally found the village that was her last stop. Will he uncover the past?

Edit: Incest? Where? with who?

Yeah, I like the mystery bit. And after looking at Littl0_Lia's family tree again, I'm also wondering where the incest would happen cause Marietta and James III are not related anyway and aren't married.

So I guess it's all good then?

The only incest could be with her aunt but I doubt it's going to happen :P

If James III And Marietta were ever supposed to get together, EA would register as incest because I'm pretty sure they would be registered as Step-Brother and Step-Sister. Because, you know, EA's system is pretty unrealistic . _ .


Edit: Oh gawd, this is confusing me. I'm going to make a family tree and see how this works out.

Oh yeah, Lana do you think I would be able to use one cc clothes item? It's by poppy and very EA esque.

I don't think so. First they are not blood-related and second, James wasn't married to Lilith so no step-sister title. It's more of a bastard thing for this era.

Edit: sorry, lia, but we can't. I know what you feel since I'm a clutter addict and i can't use any.

No wait, I get what you're trying to say now, Litt0_Lia.

Because of the first James connection...the game would get confused and assume that Marietta and James III are related somehow. James was married to Lilith but she had an affair with Nicolo who is a local.

Lana: Awwh, Okay. I'm a clutter junky too. I love my african tea set XD

Charming: Yess! You're getting what I'm saying.

EDIT: Now thinking about it, parent's are totally not related. So there might not be an incest problem. If there is we can just fix it right? Since we will be definitely testing everything.

I stand by what I said in the post before (damn this conversation is hard to follow)

Okay, so Marietta and James III's relationship would just be platonic then?

Why do you guys want to see incest where there's none? I'm going to need to draw too and it's going to be awful, just warning you

LOL...we're not trying to see anything...eww! It's EA's fault for not generating proper family ties.

All right I'm going to give you an example:

you have a former girlfriend/boyfriend but you finally end up married to another woman/man. How your previous boy/grilfriend's babies are related to you? it's considered family only if you're married and they were not.

Edit: you meant the game will consider it incest? ahhhhh! hummm not sure, I guess we'll see. If it does james will have to find another sweetheart, that's all

You're absolutely right. I think what Litt0_Lia was trying to say is that the game might not recognize the difference and may not see James as Lilith's ex-husband since she died before they got divorced.